donderdag, oktober 25, 2007

Booms & bangs

In deze - op zich volstrekt oninteressante - video hebben complotters alle 'booms' en 'bangs' van de WTC torens maar weer eens bij elkaar gemonteerd, zoals sommige ooggetuigen ze beschrijven. Dat was niet anders dan het geluid van de verdiepingen die op elkaar klapten toen de torens instortten, maar volgens complotters uiteraard weer het bewijs voor het gebruik van explosieven. Alsof het instorten van 400 meter hoge torens geruisloos zou moeten verlopen.

Interessanter is de vergissing die in de montage is geslopen. Een clip waaraan audio is toegevoegd, waardoor explosies en een 'Oh my God' zijn te horen. Dat zat helemaal niet in het origineel. Het (moedwillig) gemanipuleerde filmpje duikt echter overal op, want het vlijtige complotvolkje neemt bij voorbaat aan dat het allemaal wel zal kloppen. Met beeld gebeurt dus nu al hetzelfde als met onjuiste feiten die in cyberspace een geheel eigen leven gaan leiden.

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At 8:56 p.m., Anonymous gbeliever said...

Thanx billy, interessante tekst en video.

At 10:28 p.m., Blogger Jay said...

De boel wordt weer lekker verdraaid in de video ook.

Te beginen met de quote van Brian Dixon.

Dit is de werkelijke quote.



I just pulled up to the street there, just put the car in gear, in park, and hear this horrendous boom. It shook the car. I figured somebody in the north tower exploded. Then like a Godzilla movie, everybody that had been standing in that little park there across from One Liberty Plaza and had been just looking up and watching the north tower burn just started running eastbound like they were being chased by someone. I jumped out of the car. I looked up and the south tower -- that must have been the time that the plane had just struck the south tower. Now I see the south tower also. Somebody was saying there's another plane. At that point I assumed you can't have two -- it can't be an accident to have two planes. So, I don't know if there's planes or missiles or what but something was hitting this thing. You saw debris was falling down.

Ganci was just figuring out where they were putting people. I was watching the fire, watching the people jump and hearing a noise and looking up and seeing -- it actually looked -- the lowest floor of fire in the south tower actually looked like someone had planted explosives around it because the whole bottom I could see -- I could see two sides of it and the other side -- it just looked like that floor blew out. I looked up and you could actually see everything blew out on the one floor. I thought, geez, this looks like an explosion up there, it blew out. Then I guess in some sense of time we looked at it and realized, no, actually it just collapsed.

Dominick Durubbio



It was weird how it started to come down. It looked like it was a timed explosion, but I guess it was just the floors starting to pancake one on top of the other.



We were there I don't know, maybe 10, 15 minutes and then I just remember there was just an explosion. It seemed like on television they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions. Everybody just said run and we all turned around and we ran into the parking garage because that's basically where we were. Running forward would be running towards it. Not thinking that this building is coming down. We just thought there was going to be a big explosion, stuff was going to come down.



As my officer and I were looking at the south tower, it just gave. It actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit, because we originally had thought there was like an internal detonation explosives because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down. With that everybody was just stunned for a second or two, looking at the tower coming down. Then everybody started to turn towards the garage. That was it. We were just kind of blown into the garage with all the dust and the debris and material from the building. It came up rapidly right up the street.



It was basically everyone for themselves after the second explosion. I saw Many Delgado. I saw some other people. Like I said, it was crazy, really crazy. Everything pretty much calmed down. Once the second plane hit it wasn't to bad. People still running out of the building.

It was a frigging noise. At first I thought it was -- do you ever see professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop"-- That's exactly what -- because I thought it was that. When I heard that frigging noise, that's when I saw the building coming down.



22 engine went up before us. 13 truck went up before us, and then one of our guys -- one of the guys from 13 truck. Our guy went in with 13 truck, and he was coming down with the guy from 13 truck to bring the elevator to us, and when he was either going up or coming down the elevator, that's when the south tower collapsed, and it sounded like a bunch of explosions. You heard like loud booms, but I guess it was all just stuff coming down, and then we got covered with rubble and dust



Shortly after that we realized what was flying over was the armed forces F-14s flying over, and we got a confirmation from the FAA -- over the police radio we got a confirmation from FAA that all airports had been closed and there were no planes flying within the New York City area at that specific time.

At that time I started walking back up towards Vesey Street. I heard three explosions, and then we heard like groaning and grinding, and tower two started to come down. To the firefighters and the cops that I was standing there with started running northbound on West Street and we made a left on Vesey and ran again towards North End Avenue where we were having EMS triage, and we stopped over there.

At 10:49 p.m., Blogger Jay said...



As we were going up, they said on the lower level the second plane hit the other building. Me personally, I felt it on another level up, so I think the timing was off between everybody. We just kept walking up. As far as we knew, there were no planes or anything coming in. There wasn't even a plane that hit that building. We just knew there was a fire up there. Any other explosions that we felt from inside were maybe extra machinery or something like that. Those were the words that we were getting. So we just kept going up the stairwell. We got up to about the 17th floor, and we felt another pretty big explosion.

There was nobody in the intersection, nobody in the streets in general, everyone just saying come on, keeping coming, keep coming. That's when it went. I looked back. You see three explosions and then the whole thing coming down.

Q. What floor did you say you were on when you think the south tower fell down?
A. I would say about the 17th.



At that time, as they were speaking we heard a loud rumble and we look up and we saw that the south tower was coming down.

We were standing underneath and Captain Stone was speaking again. We heard -- I heard 3 loud explosions. I look up and the north tower is coming down now, 1 World Trade Center.

They were talking about what was going on. At that time, when I heard the 3 loud explosions, I started running west on Vesey Street towards the water.



As we got down to the location, we got dropped off a couple of blocks away. I don't really recall what street we got dropped off on, but I think it was Barclay and West. The lieutenant and I traveled down to where Ladder 8's rig was to find out, see if we could hook up with Ladder, looking for the command post. I proceeded into One World Trade Center into the front lobby. Just making it into the door, I ran into 3 Truck, members of 3 Truck, which told us that there were numerous people trapped in elevator cars and that they needed forcible entry saws.

I guess about three minutes later you just heard explosions coming from building two, the south tower. It seemed like it took forever, but there were about ten explosions. At the time I didn't realize what it was. We realized later after talking and finding out that it was the floors collapsing to where the plane had hit. We then realized the building started to come down.



We were actually one of the first companies on the scene. We pulled up right in front of One World Trade Center, right into the cul-de-sac right in front of the canopy. So we got off the rig. I noticed there were several people sitting in the grass in front of the building burned head to toe, gray, just staring at us. The captain ordered us to grab four rollups. We went into the building. We went into the lobby. The lobby actually looked like the plane hit the lobby. From what I understand, I was told afterwards, that a fireball shot down the elevator shaft and blew out all the windows in the lobby and blew out the elevator doors. We searched for an elevator to see if there was one operating. There was none.

Ze gebruiken ook weer die gefakete foto van jones van die brandweermannen die bij die lamp staan te kijken.

Hier zie je het origineel. Foto 5575.

Die staat nog steeds in zijn "peer reviewed" paper.

En de complotters blijven er maar achter aan lopen. Hoe triest kan je zijn dan. Tijd dat ze eens wakker worden.

Transcripts zijn hier te vinden trouwens.

At 5:08 p.m., Anonymous Anoniem said...

Weer een gevalletje van eenzijdig blind. Hier tot kunst verheven. De officiele versie van de gebeurtenissen spoort van geen kant, waarover geen enkele klacht, maar als in een leger van critici enkele prutsers hun hand overspelen is het hier meteen groot nieuws. Roepen dat een ander ongelijk heeft is kennelijk interessanter dan de vraag wat er werkelijk is gebeurd.

At 5:17 p.m., Anonymous Braad Spitt said...

"Roepen dat een ander ongelijk heeft is kennelijk interessanter dan de vraag wat er werkelijk is gebeurd."

Nee maar! Lees ik dit goed?! Een 'anoniem' die geinteresseerd is in wat er WEL is gebeurd ipv gaatjes prikken in een theorie zonder er ook maar iets tegenover te zetten?
Laat maar horen, ik vraag er al anderhalf jaar naar, maar krijg nooit antwoord; kom maar met een coherente hypothese die:
a) waarschijnlijker is dan de "officiele" hypothese,
b) beter aansluit bij de feiten.

Verras me!
Of ga je nu weer terugkrabbelen, en hou je je juist niet bezig met wat er wel is gebeurd?

At 6:31 p.m., Anonymous Rogier said...

"Roepen dat een ander ongelijk heeft is kennelijk interessanter dan de vraag wat er werkelijk is gebeurd."

Op die vraag is hier tig keer antwoord gegeven, maar dat is je kennelijk weer eens ontgaan. Blijkbaar ben je pas tevreden als je eigen vermoedens bevestigd wordt.

At 7:44 p.m., Anonymous pinkeltje said...

Je grammatica, Rogier...

At 2:36 p.m., Anonymous Anoniem said...

Hier is nog een oninteressante video Billy:

Misschien zou je eens betere filmpjes moeten aanhalen. Ach ja, dat doe je toch niet...

At 2:55 p.m., Anonymous Braad Spitt said...

doe eens een suggestie, anoniem, WELKE "betere" filmpjes?
We zijn zo razendbenieuwd naar een filmpje waarin eens een keer geprobeerd wordt om een inside job scenario aannemelijk te maken. Liefst met bewijzen, maar eindelijk eens een keertje een hypothese zou al fijn zijn. Laat maar komen!

At 12:37 p.m., Anonymous Anoniem said...

Ik zeg niet dat het een inside job is, wel een cover-up.

At 5:18 p.m., Anonymous Braad Spitt said...

Dat was de vraag niet. De vraag was: "WELKE "betere" filmpjes?"

En als het een "cover up" was, WAT werd er dan covered? Wees eens concreet.


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